Episode

Elon Musk, Harassment Law, University Fees, and Donald Trump’s World Cup w/ Pat Younge

12 June 2026 · 35 min

Is there any power left in campaigning? Is university worth it? And what’s happened to the World Cup song?

Joining Carys is  Pat Younge. Pat is a former Chief Creative Officer for BBC Television production and former President/General Manager of US cable network, Travel Channel Media. Pat served on the board as Non Executive Director of ITV Studios Ltd from 2020-2024 and is the Chair of the Council of Cardiff University. He’s also one of the founding members of the Over/Under podcast.

Pat and Carys discuss how Elon Musk is using X to abuse his power, the bigger story around David Stroud and harassment law, why universities provide a societal benefit, and how Donald Trump’s immigration rules are impacting the FIFA World Cup.